Gedmatch matches to Eastern Europe

Just a quick tally of Gedmatch matches over 700 cM and 700 SNPs:
7.1cM Ukraine
7.4cM Hungary
7.4cM Russia (Samara/Kazan region)
7.7cM Russia
8.4cM Hungary/Romania (Szekely cousin)
9.2cM Lithuania/Latvia (5th cousin)
9.5cM Lithuania
Addition using FTDNA kit:
7.3cM Hungary/Romania (Szekely cousin Granddaughter)

Latest Gedmatch Eurogenes chromosome comparison results.

I compared the K12 and the Hunter-Gatherer vs Farmer calculators with the Szekely cousin who has shown "peaks" in common in my previous post.
This time there is still something in that location that is shared in common but it appears a lot smaller. Not sure about the Pygmy gatherer, but African was picked up on one of the other comparisons too. Volga-Ural makes more sense.

Hungarian match number 6!

Yes via Gedmatch, we now have Hungarian match number 6. They don't think they have any Szekely ancestry, but I don't see why we can't have regular Hungarian ancestry too!
All their matches are either Jewish or Eastern European, there aren't any UK matches. I say this because it is always nice to affirm as much as possible the fact that the match is not possibly on our UK side!

Gedmatch Eurogenes k12b by chr comparison

Below: Dodecad by chr admixture comparison.

Below: Eurogenes k12b by chr admixture comparison.

Gedmatch have released various admixture tools from the Eurogenes project. One of them allows you to compare relatives at Gedmatch on the chromosome segments you share with them and will break your matches down into admixture proportions.

I compared my mother and one of her Szekely cousins using this feature and attached is the result. I also compared the segment using the Dodecad utility which does a similar thing.

Once again there is a visible "peak" which Dr Ann Turner tells me supports the fact that the match is real-the size of the peaks do not necessarily have to be the same as siblings etc would inherit varying amounts of the same DNA. What is really exciting is what the peak represents-Dodecad suggests Paleo-African which I'm not sure about, but Eurogenes suggests North Asian, which I would think is more plausible or at least something to do with the Szekely.

Finally a location and some names!

Exciting news for me the other day. I got in touch with one of my mother's 5th cousins (let's call them Cousin A) who is of Hungarian descent as I noticed that she matches another member of this cousin's family over at Gedmatch. And it's a good job I did get in touch, because they told me that since I had last wrote, they had been in touch with Mum's other 5th cousin of Hungarian descent (cousin B) of which me, my mother and cousin A are also related to (that is we are all descended from the same ancestor).

Cousin A and cousin B had managed to locate a city, timeframe and 3 surnames that they both shared in common! I didn't realise, but their Hungarian ancestry is in fact Szekley. The city they have both been able to find a connection to is Gyergyoszentmiklos, in Szekely Land, Romania. The surnames in common date back 8 generations making their common ancestors their GGGGGreat Grandparents approximately (my mother, cousin A and cousin B being of similar age). So they are in theory, 6th cousins. The 23andme prediction was 5th to distant cousins.

Cousin A tells me that the Szekely were a close community and that marriages within the community were common, so it is possible that these surnames they have found were all related to each other and it is impossible at this time to narrow the link down further.

On reading up about the Szekely, it seems that some moved to Bucovina in the second half of the 18th Century. Perhaps this included my ancestors-descendants who branched off from our common ancestors. This group seem to be the ones who later emmigrated to the USA in the late 19th Century, so it would make sense, or perhaps they married into a Hungarian family or a German family which later went on the the US.

What is interesting is that Bukovina is not far from the Galicia region, where my mother has other matches.

Really chuffed, it may be a distant connection, but it has made the connection solid!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sz%C3%A9kelys

Hungarian ancestry continued and more!

These two cousins who share a common ancestor with me are both have lived in Romania. However they believe the link is through their Hungarian ancestry. One cousins mother has taken the test and has confirmed the Hungarian ancestry!

A new cousin is a 5th cousin from Lithuania. They believe their ancestry to be 100% Lithuanian, but given the history of that region, I am not surprised that we now have a connection to that country.

A new distant cousin with Hungarian ancestry has popped up with the new features at 23andme, as well as a relative that was born in Switzerland (5th cousin) who is yet to respond.
Had one decline who declared their ancestry to be near/middle east and has Jewish name and haplogroups. Wouldn't surprise me if our link was via some Jewish convert years ago from Central Europe.

Sweden matches are still high but hover around 5.6cM or under. Not sure what to make of this, could be ancient. Danish matches have increased but still in same levels as Sweden. Latvia has appeared through a mixed Swedish/Danish/Latvian at 5.5cM and also Israel/Lebanon/Latvia/Latvia and Russia/Russia/Estonia/Latvia matches.

A new tool called DIYDodecad has revealed that the top 10 best fit for my mother, as a prediction of her ancestry, is 50% British 50% Hungarian. In the latest run a third of her top 30 scores are 60% British 40% Hungarian. When a family member wrote to the creator of the DIYDodecad programme, they said these scores are reflective of someone who is Western European with some minority Eastern European (Russian) or more substantial Central European such as German or Hungarian!

Hungarian relatives!

I am so thrilled to have discovered that I have shared ancestry with two people who are of Hungarian descent! These two people are themselves 5th cousins and they match in the same location as my mother, making all three of them (and me!) related via shared ancestors from the Hungarian region c. 1780. It's always a gamble predicting a time frame for these relationships but I'm just happy to have found some relatives to support what the biogeographical tests were saying! Thanks to both of them for all their help!
Latest Ancestry Finder updates include someone who is Hungarian/Croatian/Bosnian/Bosnian and another who is Ukrainian/Polish, plus a mystery Romanian/Unknown.
Given my new cousins have Romanian ancestry themselves and come from Transylvania, I'm wondering if this mystery match also has some Hungarian ancestry.
My mother also gets quite high scores on Eurogenes to Central Europe/Hungary.
I'm sticking to my Galicia emmigrant theory!